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Как доказать заказчику свои затраты на доставку материалов со своей базы до объекта?


В настоящее время есть три документа, на которые Вы можете сослаться:

Документ первый. МДС 81-2.99


В пункте 3.3.6 написано, что при определении исходных данных по всем видам материалов следует принимать реальные и наиболее экономичные схемы их перевозки от предприятий-изготовителей (поставщиков) до районов сосредоточенной застройки.

Документ второй. Общие положения к сборнику "ФЕДЕРАЛЬНЫЕ СМЕТНЫЕ ЦЕНЫ НА МАТЕРИАЛЫ, ИЗДЕЛИЯ, КОНСТРУКЦИИ И ОБОРУДОВАНИЕ, ПРИМЕНЯЕМЫЕ В СТРОИТЕЛЬСТВЕ"


В пункте 3 говорится, что сметные цены учитывают все расходы, связанные с приобретением, доставкой материалов, изделий, конструкций и оборудования от поставщиков (производителей) до приобъектного склада объекта капитального строительства.


Документ третий.


Методические рекомендации по разработке ГЭСН на строительные, специальные строительные и ремонтно-строительные работы», утвержденные приказом Минстроя от 8 февраля 2017 г. № 76/пр.


В пункте 3.8.1. говорится, что затраты, связанные с доставкой материалов от места их заготовки до приобъектного склада, в состав элементных сметных норм не включаются. А это значит, что транспортировка учтена в сметной цене материалов.


Таким образом, у Вас теперь есть три документа на которые Вы можете сослаться при разговоре с заказчиком.



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Гос.экспертиза принимает по бюджетным сметам перевозку материалов по ТССЦпг-03. Получаются копейки.
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Госзаказчики, как водится, вообще не учитывают перевозку материалов даже в случаях, когда стоимость материалов в смете обосновывается по прайсом и материалы чаще всего доставляются на базу подрядчика или заказчика. А доставка на объект материальных ценностей ложится бременем на подрядчика. Расчеты на перевозку даже не рассматриваются.
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Как доказать заказчику стоимость транспортировки если материал приобретается у предприятия-изготовителя и везётся, к примеру в другой регион РФ? Раньше принимался сметный расчёт на перевозку , но в базе 2017 года перевозки материалов нет.
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Пт 02 Мар 2018 • Ответить
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я в таком случае ставлю стоимость материала по прайс листу или накладной, и следующим пунктом расчет перевозки, такой расчет делаешь когда составляешь смету по ГСН
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Пн 19 Мар 2018
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Пн 05 Фев 2018 • Ответить
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Пн 13 Ноя 2017 • Ответить
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Вс 22 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Надо смотреть техническую часть КСЦ
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Ср 18 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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У нас в Республике Карелия при составлении смет включается раздел "Транспорт", в который мы включаем затраты, связанные с доставкой материальных ресурсов до приобъектного склада и у заказчика вопросов не вызывает.
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Пн 09 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Вс 08 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Пт 06 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Пт 06 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Чт 05 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Транспорт материалов с перевалочной базы ТССЦ 81-01-2001 п.5 это не правильно?
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Чт 05 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Чт 05 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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КПК поток июнь 2023КНС поток июнь 2023 удалить
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Чт 05 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Спасибо. Я правильно понимаю, в материалах учтена доставка до 20 км, а до объекта расстояние 200 км, значит 180 км доставки необходимо расчитать и доказать?
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Заказчика чаще всего совершенно не волнует, что оборудование и материалы должны быть доставлены за 300км до объекта. И хоть ты какие документы и постановления предоставь все равно за свой счет будешь доставлять. Так в нашем регионе в службах Заказчика умные сметчики работают. А если пытаешься доказать, что что-то не верно они понимают - тогда жди проблем с подписанием КС. Но информация полезная, спасибо!
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Ср 08 Ноя 2017
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Да, увы! Заказчики сейчас подрядчиков вообще за людей не считают. Мы вообще возим материалы на 1200км и никто нам это не компенсирует и никакие расчёты не смотрят.
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Пн 27 Май 2019
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Высококлассный сметчик удалить
Спасибо за пояснения ).
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Ср 04 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Спасибо.
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Ср 04 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Успешно пройден демо курс ТрансформацияКНС поток декабрь 2023 удалить
Да в ценах на материалы,конструкции по району,зоне ,разработанной Региональной службой по тарифам указано на какое расстояние уже учтена доставка материала С уважением Валерий
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Пн 02 Окт 2017 • Ответить
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Друзья, обратите внимание! С момента написания этой статьи, мы видим как реформа ценообразования вносит изменения в нашу работу. Вот второй документ, на которой я ссылалась в статье уже отменен. Сейчас мы не можем на него ссылаться. Все постоянно меняется. сейчас почти каждый день. Вы можете задавать мне свои вопросы на курсе повышения квалификации "Реформа сметного дела" https://academia-bti.ru/online-course/povichenie
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Ср 13 Сен 2017 • Ответить
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Подсскажите, пожалуйста, а когда отменен 38 МДС?
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Ср 13 Сен 2017
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Приказом Минстроя России от 30 июня 2017 г. №946/пр признаны не действующими МДС, по которым сметчики работали с 2000 года.
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Ср 13 Сен 2017

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